Hi ,

I'm not aware of a single drop-in-replacement for πŸ€” Here are some ideas:

πŸ’¬ End-to-end-encrypted chat
- /
- with OMEMO encryption

πŸ”’ Encrypted Storage
- maybe for some use cases

πŸ”— Linking keys to accounts
- Sorry, I'm inexperienced here πŸ˜…
- for PGP keys: Public PGP key servers
- for Mastodon: profile link to website with key infos + "rel=me" link

Gonna share your post for more feedback on this πŸ™‚

@switchingsoftware @rob For OpenPGP keys, I recommend to use WKD. When you own a domain, that's definitely the perfect way to go.

Otherwise you might want to reach out to @wiktor about his work on OpenPGP key based verification of accounts :)

@sheogorath @switchingsoftware @rob @wiktor definitely use WKD rather than the keyservers. The keyservers are a dumpster fire.

@sheogorath @switchingsoftware @rob @wiktor @hoptank Thanks, that's useful. It's a little annoying that the author used the term "certificates" (which is SSL jargon). We say "public key" & "private key" when discussing #PGP. Anyway, glad to know about key poisoning, and why I've been unable to get old keys removed from keyservers.


Certificate is a very regular term, it just happens to be mostly known from x509, because it's the most common use case in e.g. TLS. But we also have non-x509 certificates for SSH or as you noticed, OpenPGP. A certificate is basically a public key signed by another private key which attests it's validity. Therefore certificate is a universal term but NOT THE SAME THING as a public key.

@switchingsoftware @rob @wiktor @hoptank

@switchingsoftware @rob I have the same problem with keybase, xmpp, matrix, signal, telegram, delta chat, and so on: everybody I know uses whatsapp

Hi @racuna ,

so you can be the first who offers an alternative channel of communication πŸ™‚

Maybe, install one or two alternatives next to Whatsapp. And then share your new contact details via status or chat or real-life-conversation. Some might give it a try if you light the way πŸ’¬

Because "everybody" uses Whatsapp, but not everybody feels comfortable using it. The entry barrier for other messengers decreases when there is someone, who receives and appreciates a first test message. You βœ‰οΈ

@switchingsoftware when WhatsApp stop working, people switch to telegram for a couple of hours. Then they comeback to Whatsapp again.

if they want to install something else, other people just wait until WhatsApp start working again, because they don't want to install anything different than the usual

(I'm taking about non techie people in my circles: friends, family, etc)

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